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hi this is Tim Buckley and welcome back

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to my unfair unbalanced unedited

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paranormal series i'm here tonight in

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the mystical town of Sedona Arizona it's

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one of my favorite places in the United

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States I usually come here once a year

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in fact I privilege to be in the home of

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Paul Davis Paul baby so did you refer to

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them a lot of our I'm sure a lot of our

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fans have seen his movies including the

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Showtime special on Roswell

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and I know Paul for many years I've

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interviewed him for UFO universe and

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other publications he's a great guy but

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I'm not here to interview him tonight

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I'm here to interview someone else

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someone very special

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her name is Raymond Delacroix and she's

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known on several levels she's an actress

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an exotic dancer and very much into the

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metaphysical and we want to find out

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about all of these things now we only

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have we have just about an hour so we're

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going to have to cram an awful lot of

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stuff into it but boy I'm going to get

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busy with it Raven you were born and

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raised in New York City you've come a

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long way and you've done an awful lot of

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things in that time now how well let's

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let's start out when you were in New

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York what did your parents do what kind

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of life did you live lead where did you

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live and I understand you had several

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UFO experiences even at an early age

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tell us a little bit about kind of get

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us going on this alrighty then I was

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born in Manhattan raised in the Bronx

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and from five years old I was looking

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have the George Washington Bridge and I

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would see not only crap but I had this

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overwhelming feeling of just watching I

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couldn't do much and so it started that

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aging move forward as far as being

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raised the oldest of eight kids I was

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kind of the female Harry Potter you know

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that long ago so it was interesting

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because I learned a lot about children

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he loves the big kids and lucky for them

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I was fun

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used to sing baby bracket for the

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hat and everything but uh and so so I'm

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glad that I that I was able to be that

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way did you have any early what were

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your most earlier evidences of mystical

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experiences well starting when I was I

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remember what the five was in Manhattan

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and later on I guess no big early is

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there I keep on saying five and I don't

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know why that's a number but it always

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comes up when I'm thinking about that

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and later on down the line I would be

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living on those walk-up apartments in

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New York six stories my mother would

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just be a plate and I would be working

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from the bedroom into the kitchen ready

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to step out the window you know and you

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were ready to step out door don't know

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and she thought it was the joy to fly

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well no I think that's was my exit for

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some reason that particular window

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because when in that particular time

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that was during the big the gray

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situation mm-hmm which is I have a

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different slant on how that will happen

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but and and there was like dimensional

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like the orbs go behind things when I

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film orbs they'll be present and then

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they'll go behind something that looks

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like thin air to the naked eye but they

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it's as if you can see half of them as

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they go into the slip so I that's I

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don't not technicals that aren't exactly

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scientific we know what that is but I've

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actually witnessed it in several

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occasions not only with the greys when

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well if they talk about grace coming

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through the wall that's kind of a slip

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well in fact you talk about experiences

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in New York there's a woman there who

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I've met several times

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fairly good friend of mine Linda Cortile

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yoo-hoo

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but Hopkins wrote a book about

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apparently there were several witnesses

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not only did this happen to her but

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witnesses to this experience where

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people actually saw her being levitated

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outside her window into a ship over the

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Brooklyn Bridge so did you have et

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experiences were you abducted at an

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early age do you think I absolutely know

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I have well what were your your memories

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of that as a child the earliest ones I

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think as I say five I can remember I'm

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just feeling kind of Numb when I was

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like laying in my my bed and I would

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always like when a cold borrow my sister

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was younger than me and she got the cold

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iced milk you know at night and so I

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remember it and the nights that this

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would happen I would you know request

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that and I would remember

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free free screaming out the window and I

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could see the George Washington Bridge

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on the eighth story walk-up nothing over

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there and and then I just remember just

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things just getting kind of white and I

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felt like ether I never liked ether

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because it's kind of so fur like

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dimensional thing that people do

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associate with that and so that was my

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earliest I didn't know it was sulfur but

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ether kind of correlated with that and

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when I was a kid they put me in surgery

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I would kind of flash back when I was no

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ether of this thing like windows here's

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an AIDS story you know I'm seeing ships

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and I used to go to the roof and I felt

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very angry because it was not happy with

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it where I just whatever the mission was

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to be here you know because I felt like

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I was in the wrong place because that

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was definitely a stranger in my own home

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did you know these experiences that you

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had at that time do you think they are

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related to what has transpired since

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then and in more recent years absolutely

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because I feel meaner old enough I'll be

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65 in August so it's like reaching by a

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month yeah yeah 65 in a few days if you

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want to send yeah that's one you know

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okay so feeling like a teenager exactly

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but I do a teen hormones via a servant

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is okay good work I mean why should you

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learn hormones with the certainty that

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might have a little fun well okay so you

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went to school in the Bob the broad

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Shipman and I went to school in

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Riverdale and that was like the Catholic

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school and I'm I purposely flunked cuz

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over stay the story but you know when I

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think of New York and someone asked me

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where I'm from is they said even the

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Jewish kids are better than you you know

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us as a class so I decided to flunk 8th

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Goodman in high school so that I could

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find out what the rest of the world was

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all about just the cute metaphor how you

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know people our own little worlds now

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did you tell your parents anything about

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these experiences well um when I was

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young like under 16 under 16 I really

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didn't know what they were because

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because of the type of stress that went

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on with the eight kids and the parents

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and stepfather and all that you know

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yeah I was always taught to be on guard

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I think it's some kind of book they were

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a bit dysfunctional kids how you know

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know how to or else used to calm him you

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had become a victim of them so I guess

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this wasn't even victims I was learning

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how to to perceive danger and and

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because it was a dangerous environment

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I would have these dreams and I always

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thought my mother was angry

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stepfather was frightening so when I was

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a kid I thought it was them but then the

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doctors came and I hadn't seen you know

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any pictures of graves at the time and

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you know they weren't talking I'm

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talking about it when I was five years

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or ten years old so that was I thought

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they were nightmares because I was

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unhappy and I always had started

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drowning in my lungs I had pneumonia

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like constantly because I just I guess

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you know didn't feel comfortable here

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and then that was the early thing nobody

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knew you mentioned you heading there

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were seven other children yeah I was

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able to say babe did any of the other

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children in the family have any

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experiences they relate to anything to

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you I really didn't they first the

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creepy stuff there's usually earthy and

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stuff you know we shared some of that

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but basically it was my sister and I

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that were with the other children you

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know how it is now everything is a

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little more merged but you know they

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still problems with those kind of

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integrations for some reason we're all

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children but anyway when I escaped to

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escape from from New York when I was 18

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well you were rebellious child years oh

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I was really I was really coming at the

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planet and I would just thought I didn't

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couldn't believe life was this way I

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didn't realize where I came from at that

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time and I didn't understand why you

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know so I saw such a I had such an ideal

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vision for how people could interact my

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third goodness and having so much fun

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you know and it was all this stuff so it

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was very reptilian like had you read any

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books on UFOs or anything like them

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no but I was a comic book you know

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personally flesh Guardian well that

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would have been before but not it was

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school right so he'll ask organic yeah

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it took me series in there I was a fan

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of a Captain midnite I had a decoder

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ring and all that yeah it was more real

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to me than everyday life so how old were

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you when you fled the I was 18 18 and

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you headed to Hollywood no I I believed

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in romance so somebody said I loved you

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and I believed him I was just a kid mmm

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and after being you know

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I was just too sensitive I did know that

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ultra sensitive they didn't know that

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psychic ability

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I was the female Harry Potter there's no

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blame they're just I was born with

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muggles that doesn't mean well those are

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bad people they're just different than

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Magi so it was just one of those things

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and it taught me a lot because you know

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i virtually got my butt kicked all the

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way out through life you know and it

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doesn't stop now but now I know why so I

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don't take it personally

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well you certainly had a glamorous in

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life you've traveled the as a showgirl

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you I mean you've traveled all over the

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all over the world or at least in the

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North America here how did you make how

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old were you and how did you make your

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way to would I guess Los Angeles oh well

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then my the man I did marry the father

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of my son he you know had family in

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California so I came out it was kind of

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exciting you know coming out there and I

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remember traveling down Sunset Boulevard

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and they had auditions for because if

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when I was younger and well before I get

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married did you want to be a showgirl -

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have you thought about that at all done

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I just I just love dancing yeah it was

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something that easy that certain sound

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not just any music but certain sound it

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just it just activated what was the

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music you the period I mean yeah well I

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mean I used to dance to your point angel

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kuba on the land side oh yeah okay a lot

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of music there you know and then still

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the wine with Eric Berg actually I was

272
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on an album with Eric very with a line

273
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you know from Eric Burdon spilled wine

274
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and you know and I was the music

275
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business of Martin things but it's just

276
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all over the mountain King King which I

277
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always figured there was something a

278
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little cultish going on with that with

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that song I mean if you listen to the

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lyrics of it what is the thing hold that

281
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home of the Mountain King okay well it

282
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seems to be a supernatural reference to

283
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people that are living inside the other

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mountain

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gnomes fairies effectively conventions

286
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noses oh well they certainly haven't

287
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here he's a donor yeah I heard about it

288
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before I moved here yes so what's coming

289
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off and on every few years okay so

290
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you're you're you're out there you make

291
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the big move to California yes and then

292
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I'll enter the usual earthy and stuff

293
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you know

294
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it was that people had relationships and

295
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and the lack of communication and I'm

296
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not saying this you know specifically

297
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because of mine is an ability came to

298
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counsellor let me know why is the sky

299
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blue daddy you know and why when people

300
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fall in love and they have this

301
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delicious concept that it turns to

302
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almost police and every time in some

303
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form or if it doesn't people compromise

304
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and they've shut down the hearts or then

305
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they fantasize things that will ever

306
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happen or make them happen it's really

307
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strange and I and I became the mad

308
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scientist of how does it work how can I

309
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mean you know some passion but to say

310
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because I saw this misery ever since

311
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what does what cut up before you got it

312
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to the dancing in but dancing I was a

313
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Hannah discovered for yeah yeah okay

314
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what were you doing before that though I

315
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mean as far as like as you can you're

316
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just a kid I was a kid and just you know

317
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got out of school and you know that this

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person might go it was romantic and I

319
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thought when someone actually said they

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loved the things real and one could make

321
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that up there's a naive I was

322
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well no no but now I thought was our to

323
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it yeah I guess that's recognized like

324
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the host nation from someone who's

325
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actually present you know it's all fakes

326
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it doesn't take this long that or you

327
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know tall was short doesn't take my name

328
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fancy cars just a few present the best

329
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present you can get because the people

330
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know who you are and then you can be

331
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yourself and if that's happening you

332
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never would this you if anyone else you

333
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never would this year with everyone else

334
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you never kiss you with anyone else you

335
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know it's like people don't look at it

336
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like that they had their their way that

337
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they come because that's like the

338
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security of who we become or something

339
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and then it's very very seldom actually

340
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very genuine looking for you know I love

341
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Oprah when she said she says no one ever

342
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asked me what I really like to do and

343
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she said that it was one of the one with

344
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Piers Morgan

345
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his first in his first show was her and

346
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I really admired her because I knew I

347
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liked her because I'm not a TV watcher

348
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really but I just knew something that

349
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she really was in fact her sister that

350
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you know she chose to take a hard road

351
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to do this anyway she said that she said

352
00:14:33,890 --> 00:14:31,650
this she was really you know so pleased

353
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to be in present time and I have to

354
00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:35,970
think of what she was going to say next

355
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what presuppose will project on the

356
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other day that you can actually hear

357
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that beam and then when the this

358
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breaking of understanding or relief came

359
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over in the sharing it was like deserved

360
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you know and and I related to that

361
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because you know with so many people in

362
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New York and growing up and being next

363
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to people and not really being next to

364
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people and he married people and so I

365
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didn't look at it personally anymore I

366
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:06,440
started to realize it was the aliens

367
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will happen okay Raven so eventually you

368
00:15:17,290 --> 00:15:14,790
were discovered exactly what were the

369
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circumstances left i guessing orphaned

370
00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:20,550
what word I would anyone was that your

371
00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:22,670
first discovery working with breast Meir

372
00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:24,990
Raven by the way was a yeah one of Russ

373
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is super super vixens I guess would say

374
00:15:31,460 --> 00:15:28,980
and what were some of the movies that

375
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you were in that Russ made well only one

376
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because we only usually do one unless we

377
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make a cameo he's just had a handful of

378
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:38,720
films but I was in Russ Meyers up

379
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swinging off trees in the redwoods look

380
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looking at fishes in the water I was I

381
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was blessed it was really gorgeous and

382
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how did you meet them because he's quite

383
00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:51,150
am oh I I guess it's got a I don't think

384
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that there isn't a person I haven't

385
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mentioned your name Joe that didn't know

386
00:15:59,450 --> 00:15:57,750
who you were or who Russ Meyer you know

387
00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,460
once he since deceased but he certainly

388
00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:01,440
was not a Steven Spielberg I mean he was

389
00:16:08,030 --> 00:16:04,110
a had his own little following and he

390
00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:08,040
was known for actresses with big bosoms

391
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:09,510
there's a glitter I thought yeah yeah

392
00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:11,730
yeah well you know he's one of us he was

393
00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:12,360
actually

394
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patent cinema talk

395
00:16:18,670 --> 00:16:16,580
Poorna war and he literally you know

396
00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:18,680
that's that this seems very patriotic

397
00:16:25,510 --> 00:16:22,190
really believes in how we're supposed to

398
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:25,520
believe everything and so it's a he went

399
00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:28,010
away with film shoots the first film he

400
00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:30,830
made was actually quite cute it was

401
00:16:35,530 --> 00:16:33,590
called the amoral necessities and it was

402
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:35,540
where they found these glasses almost

403
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:37,250
like the yelling and one like them or

404
00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:39,890
whether they live I recite they're in

405
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:41,510
the other guy remember seeing that on

406
00:16:47,620 --> 00:16:44,720
42nd Street was probably about 17 or so

407
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:47,630
Steve Aramis yeah yeah it was he put the

408
00:16:51,870 --> 00:16:49,250
glasses on then you see this very simply

409
00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:51,880
yeah you became of me first order yeah

410
00:16:56,530 --> 00:16:54,230
very finished ease in the temporary

411
00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:56,540
famous movie in the Sun photography we

412
00:17:02,830 --> 00:17:01,040
meet very pleasantly you know so that

413
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:02,840
was like like out lot of voyeurism that

414
00:17:06,189 --> 00:17:03,890
I'm gonna break into somebody's home

415
00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:06,199
discreetly what year did you make good

416
00:17:16,210 --> 00:17:08,990
you're moving with she has to be an 87

417
00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:16,220
for any debit numbers 19 oh you'll have

418
00:17:21,370 --> 00:17:18,440
to be can look it up someone TV okay

419
00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:21,380
that you you traveled all over the other

420
00:17:25,689 --> 00:17:23,480
country I got discovered 20 Century Fox

421
00:17:27,430 --> 00:17:25,699
that was a good idea over on the Turner

422
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:27,440
in the drugstore City Schwab's I was in

423
00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:29,450
Joe Allen's restaurant I was building a

424
00:17:33,130 --> 00:17:31,130
tree house in Hollywood Hills it was

425
00:17:34,780 --> 00:17:33,140
instead of a small place I decided to

426
00:17:38,890 --> 00:17:34,790
make levels with you know floating

427
00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:38,900
tables and stuff it was very cute and so

428
00:17:42,910 --> 00:17:41,120
I went for a lunch break and actually

429
00:17:45,490 --> 00:17:42,920
Samantha Mansoor who was casting for

430
00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:45,500
Eddie Foy the famous voice for 20th

431
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:47,920
century was head filmed I think they

432
00:17:54,820 --> 00:17:52,010
were connected with WestEd black snake

433
00:17:56,590 --> 00:17:54,830
and he did you know super fiction

434
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:56,600
dollars no calls that's beyond the belly

435
00:18:00,040 --> 00:17:58,400
that was the second one first one

436
00:18:03,310 --> 00:18:00,050
doesn't value the dollars and beyond on

437
00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:03,320
via dolls those crazy train said yeah

438
00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:06,110
there it is learn well you know if we

439
00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:08,400
lost two ladies

440
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:10,260
tourists at tanah passed away she was

441
00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:11,730
great I had a good time with Taurus

442
00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:14,370
antenna she disturbed within the last

443
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:16,530
year's all right like yep last year and

444
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:21,360
then you know Cynthia she passed away

445
00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:26,880
just recently and so that's I thought we

446
00:18:28,970 --> 00:18:28,200
were all here I wanted to make this

447
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:28,980
movie called

448
00:18:33,260 --> 00:18:31,770
bosom mania and that we would sit like

449
00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:33,270
The Big Chill or one of those things we

450
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:34,860
could sit around a fire and I already

451
00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:36,810
had the opening scene where if Russ's

452
00:18:40,730 --> 00:18:38,940
funeral and somebody hands us for the

453
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:40,740
gloved hand this invitation and we end

454
00:18:45,620 --> 00:18:42,930
up in a resort and we all sit around and

455
00:18:48,530 --> 00:18:45,630
tell how we became and you know who we

456
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:48,540
are today who we were how we did and

457
00:18:56,420 --> 00:18:49,770
what we bring was we're all different

458
00:18:59,420 --> 00:18:56,430
I was actually in a movie where Russ

459
00:19:03,050 --> 00:18:59,430
made a cavity cameo appearance and one

460
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:03,060
of his wives candy samples was in the

461
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:04,320
film playing the stewardess I don't

462
00:19:07,820 --> 00:19:05,850
remember the plot because I was feeling

463
00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:07,830
what their what they thought sure that I

464
00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:10,230
saw the film regardless that but I knew

465
00:19:15,470 --> 00:19:13,140
actually kidnapped if that and in the

466
00:19:15,770 --> 00:19:15,480
airplane choosing airframe yeah right

467
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:15,780
right

468
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:19,290
the anyway of course I had a young I've

469
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:20,640
been editor of many many different

470
00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:22,770
magazines over the years including what

471
00:19:26,530 --> 00:19:24,510
we most people would refer to those

472
00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:26,540
men's magazines but we call the male

473
00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:29,640
sophisticates and the you never heard

474
00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:31,680
that yes when you go to see a pig when

475
00:19:35,690 --> 00:19:33,000
you go to see a big distributor you

476
00:19:38,170 --> 00:19:35,700
never say you know like a porno or

477
00:19:41,570 --> 00:19:38,180
x-rated or anything like that it's a

478
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:41,580
male sophisticates yeah that way you

479
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:45,810
have an innocent sound okay so you did

480
00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:47,610
you did that you danced that whenever

481
00:19:52,940 --> 00:19:50,430
when I dance when I was younger I was

482
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,950
down in Manhattan I always loved Latin a

483
00:19:58,210 --> 00:19:54,720
certain only team you know certain Latin

484
00:20:01,070 --> 00:19:58,220
artists with a group and and so I was

485
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:01,080
outside of this place and I just like

486
00:20:04,820 --> 00:20:02,970
walked through you know and I felt the

487
00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:04,830
music losing my way

488
00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:06,300
around and I wasn't really an

489
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:08,370
exhibitionist or anything he's still I

490
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:11,970
just learned bball the arm to express

491
00:20:15,530 --> 00:20:13,770
myself but it isn't come easy I was very

492
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:15,540
shy do you really have any confidence

493
00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:17,570
you know I certainly thought you were

494
00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:23,550
gorgeous and okay so where did you know

495
00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:25,980
I know you were gonna say that

496
00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:29,580
okay but okay so you get you to travel

497
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,470
to God to say oh oh oh through know when

498
00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:33,360
I was a kid I just did Isis at least I

499
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:35,790
used to dance in the Latin my clothes

500
00:20:40,340 --> 00:20:37,980
and they had go-go things it wasn't just

501
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:40,350
to go by they closed in the dark fringes

502
00:20:45,230 --> 00:20:42,000
you know the whole thing was really cute

503
00:20:47,180 --> 00:20:45,240
and I drank you know I said haven't

504
00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:47,190
happened the rocks or and so they'd

505
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:48,630
always say get the kid a glass of milk

506
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:50,490
did you meet anything you mean blood

507
00:20:54,590 --> 00:20:52,650
fight so doctor any famous so later on

508
00:20:58,370 --> 00:20:54,600
my dad to LA but that was a little later

509
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,380
when I went to LA there was a tryout and

510
00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:00,240
I never did this before why would even

511
00:21:03,170 --> 00:21:01,440
think of this I was like absolutely

512
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:03,180
terrified when I get up there my higher

513
00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:04,890
self to gets my lower self control every

514
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:07,980
time I just go up you know I just go do

515
00:21:12,590 --> 00:21:10,530
yeah I see I see that and they all said

516
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:12,600
I'm committed and then I have to like do

517
00:21:16,430 --> 00:21:13,950
something that's how I get myself into

518
00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:16,440
these things and the things I'm in you

519
00:21:19,910 --> 00:21:18,750
know cuz then I have to falter so who

520
00:21:21,380 --> 00:21:19,920
all did you meet that he met big

521
00:21:25,220 --> 00:21:21,390
producers well you know when it came to

522
00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:25,230
LA I mean I was you know in you know as

523
00:21:28,670 --> 00:21:26,550
soon as that get discovered as first

524
00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:28,680
observer smart film and it was certainly

525
00:21:32,210 --> 00:21:30,630
a lot of additions that were going on I

526
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:32,220
had to like take somebody with me make

527
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:34,730
sure they were real or dish yep

528
00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:37,200
and I was like I was surprising the head

529
00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:39,960
of some big mention any names

530
00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:42,660
I didn't kiss either so it's not telling

531
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:45,750
just it's not special assuming why so

532
00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:47,610
it's just archetype silicate archetypes

533
00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:52,500
how does it work anyway so but after

534
00:21:56,150 --> 00:21:54,540
that I don't know I being in LA and I

535
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,160
always had my own businesses you know

536
00:22:00,350 --> 00:21:58,080
and it served people in my own business

537
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:00,360
and the I'd be qualified and you know

538
00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:01,450
like with Elizabeth

539
00:22:07,139 --> 00:22:05,049
the sign your new meds yes I used to go

540
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,149
to home a couple times a year to

541
00:22:12,419 --> 00:22:10,000
entertain but you know we you know she's

542
00:22:15,330 --> 00:22:12,429
lovely person just lovely person you

543
00:22:18,210 --> 00:22:15,340
ever see any very great jewelry yes and

544
00:22:20,610 --> 00:22:18,220
you know I mean I don't profess to have

545
00:22:22,350 --> 00:22:20,620
been in the vaults but she has a very

546
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:22,360
hardest time I've enjoyed her because

547
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:24,850
she's like you know not that this for

548
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:26,289
her version of this very comfortable

549
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,760
ranch-style house she's got like

550
00:22:32,009 --> 00:22:29,440
crystals and things and she's pretty

551
00:22:34,049 --> 00:22:32,019
did she harm did she have a spiritual or

552
00:22:37,950 --> 00:22:34,059
metaphysical side to her yes absolutely

553
00:22:39,779 --> 00:22:37,960
I think I was there I did body art for

554
00:22:42,029 --> 00:22:39,789
the family you know and all the friends

555
00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:42,039
and there was everybody and everybody

556
00:22:46,259 --> 00:22:44,590
was there and Jay you know was a beer

557
00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:46,269
but you know would go here she means

558
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:49,630
Michael Jackson yeah it's true look was

559
00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:51,850
it what did you take a bundle well you

560
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:53,799
know I I it's really interesting that

561
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:55,570
cycling and the things were happening to

562
00:23:00,090 --> 00:22:58,450
him it was like I could I never so

563
00:23:02,490 --> 00:23:00,100
succinctly channeled for another being

564
00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:02,500
you know something where I can see his

565
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:04,750
lost place where these people get and

566
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:06,730
this related black powder and all these

567
00:23:11,399 --> 00:23:09,730
these references of beings who operate

568
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,409
differently and there was no niche to

569
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,120
fit and if they have and if a person

570
00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:15,039
isn't reached to the part where they can

571
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,350
take joy in being the difference and not

572
00:23:21,779 --> 00:23:19,840
feel isolated and be isolated or be so

573
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:21,789
sensitive I mean we came from the same

574
00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:23,289
heart space where you know it's really

575
00:23:28,019 --> 00:23:25,510
difficult not to feel and unless you

576
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:28,029
know that it's the condition of this

577
00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:29,710
planet and not you until you stop

578
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:31,870
inverting those feelings and taking the

579
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:34,330
menís not being enough and lack that's

580
00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:36,850
the white or black magic that's the most

581
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:38,769
black magic I've ever seen in my life it

582
00:23:43,049 --> 00:23:40,330
doesn't look like with back hats and all

583
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:43,059
that this is obvious stuff but the part

584
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:44,769
that's black magic is the part that you

585
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:47,460
buy and you buy you're less than

586
00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:49,290
why there's no insignificance in this

587
00:23:53,030 --> 00:23:50,820
universe and nobody's created here for

588
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:53,040
nothing and you're you put yourself here

589
00:23:57,260 --> 00:23:55,290
you know we did now I'll just go home

590
00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:57,270
you can give you this life you know no

591
00:24:01,790 --> 00:23:59,490
yes if you just wake up and occupy

592
00:24:04,430 --> 00:24:01,800
itself you know I'm just like it's sort

593
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,440
of sort of we're in sleep and so we can

594
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:06,720
actually own that we are here and that

595
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:08,370
it doesn't matter what this history was

596
00:24:12,110 --> 00:24:10,110
you just stand up and say what I want to

597
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:12,120
do now how do I feel that what do I

598
00:24:17,140 --> 00:24:13,890
don't do about it you know and that's

599
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:17,150
like nuts but that's like dragons spit

600
00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:20,130
just did it because because you know I

601
00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:22,020
mean you sure any training yells I guess

602
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:24,150
you wake up and that's what the mind and

603
00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:25,200
programming is all about

604
00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:30,180
no I'm sitting here in your parlor and

605
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:33,660
up surrounded by crystals and right

606
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:35,970
outside your I understand is a vortex

607
00:24:40,370 --> 00:24:38,010
well actually the right with your set up

608
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:40,380
is the center of the heart of the heart

609
00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,690
energy but it's pretty well we can give

610
00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:45,000
you some warps on the uh yeah I can

611
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,820
actually show you oh good I can film

612
00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:49,200
them on my phone and you can see them

613
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,700
move around I don't never done they kids

614
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:52,320
showed me that became our Canadian

615
00:25:00,200 --> 00:24:55,860
fraction we'll try stuff like that okay

616
00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:00,210
but Hollywood in Liz Taylor and MJ is a

617
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:03,780
long way from the Red Rocks of Sedona

618
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,090
not really no not really

619
00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:08,640
well I'm surprised it comes here just oh

620
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:11,160
no well I'm not surprised regarding

621
00:25:15,950 --> 00:25:14,730
distances but well it compared to what

622
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:15,960
you would feel kind of what you were

623
00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:19,260
doing uh big and that core teeth in

624
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,000
those places you know into the real work

625
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:23,760
okay so alright how did you get how did

626
00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:27,210
you get here G long sir in deserts

627
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:30,660
pretty well many lives later had many

628
00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:32,250
lives between me be New York and

629
00:25:38,030 --> 00:25:34,830
California and making movies and and you

630
00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:38,040
know Russ Meyers Russ Meyer - what was

631
00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:39,460
the next one I made

632
00:25:45,340 --> 00:25:43,100
the winkler thing was double the Avenger

633
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,350
you know or I just played a doctor it

634
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,360
was just a funny spooky thing you can

635
00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:50,240
even get in Barnes and Nobles and then

636
00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:51,860
sci fi i frankenstein versus the

637
00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:55,390
creature from Draco just blend stuff and

638
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:58,130
the lost Empire was one of my fav you

639
00:26:01,930 --> 00:25:59,600
know because I got to do a lot of things

640
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:01,940
in that time wardrobe did - thongs and I

641
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:03,890
got to cut up some of the language is

642
00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:04,610
kind of silly

643
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,320
Angele Pettijohn and it was her last

644
00:26:10,150 --> 00:26:07,760
film when she passed away

645
00:26:11,650 --> 00:26:10,160
I'm about to see a that was his last one

646
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:11,660
before he passed away all those guys

647
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:13,850
they passed away better watch it my

648
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:16,970
number might be up your numbers just

649
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:18,890
started I think avatar Bonnie here I'm

650
00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:21,190
sure for sure

651
00:26:25,870 --> 00:26:24,470
so then after I you know made these

652
00:26:27,610 --> 00:26:25,880
films and I found myself to the eclectic

653
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:27,620
films rolling up my sleeve you know

654
00:26:32,350 --> 00:26:29,809
peanut butter and jelly sandwiches just

655
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:32,360
you know pH water my employer was

656
00:26:38,110 --> 00:26:35,049
delicious the only thing actually

657
00:26:40,539 --> 00:26:38,120
hydrate yourselves so Felix served life

658
00:26:42,430 --> 00:26:40,549
and then many adventures later I mean

659
00:26:44,110 --> 00:26:42,440
there's so many I was like going into a

660
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:44,120
comic book store and it's mostly comic

661
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:46,970
book adventures well 20 rolled out

662
00:26:53,049 --> 00:26:48,850
Sedona how did you hear about well I

663
00:26:55,270 --> 00:26:53,059
actually went to bandolier the Darryl

664
00:26:58,980 --> 00:26:55,280
anko the channels Bashar and a whole

665
00:27:01,120 --> 00:26:58,990
bunch of people of which came together

666
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:01,130
synchronistically the same way one finds

667
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:02,720
another person because we didn't really

668
00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:04,130
advertise we were doing a Celestine

669
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:05,960
Prophecy of his day everybody was

670
00:27:09,010 --> 00:27:07,370
talking about when you change your

671
00:27:11,289 --> 00:27:09,020
vibrational frequency that you change

672
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,299
you know your response or reaction to

673
00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:13,520
life because it's alchemical and then

674
00:27:16,210 --> 00:27:14,780
now it makes all the sense in the world

675
00:27:18,669 --> 00:27:16,220
and it made sense then but now it's

676
00:27:21,549 --> 00:27:18,679
expanded it's like wow and so they made

677
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:21,559
it would be finally about that and what

678
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:23,450
was a quote The Celestine Prophecy was

679
00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:25,730
really very Oracle's well sure he had

680
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,340
the book James Redfield and anything and

681
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:30,080
so we went we decided that we've been

682
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:33,110
good at Bandelier and that we hope of us

683
00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:35,450
was going and then it turned out other

684
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:37,040
people find it we're going and we're in

685
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:39,110
the middle of the bandolier forest and

686
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:40,720
it was where's ventilator

687
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:44,080
we're in Mexico here it's not far from

688
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:45,460
Albuquerque maybe a couple hours from

689
00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:47,590
Albuquerque but it's very magical land

690
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:52,360
they have kiba's did their best started

691
00:27:56,130 --> 00:27:54,640
bashing a badger I would did he say

692
00:27:57,779 --> 00:27:56,140
there was some reason to go there I was

693
00:28:00,750 --> 00:27:57,789
there mystical we invited him we just

694
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,760
waited legally were going and it's a

695
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,320
long story and it had some really

696
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:04,240
interesting people and we went there

697
00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:05,860
with camera equipment Robert wants to

698
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:07,900
make restores and you know he showed up

699
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:10,210
with the most amazing people show we

700
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:11,650
knew something was going to happen and

701
00:28:15,899 --> 00:28:14,289
it but but they didn't know it's just

702
00:28:17,399 --> 00:28:15,909
like going to Mexico or Chichen Itza

703
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:17,409
when you're in these sort of vortexes

704
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:21,970
you're digital's don't work but what we

705
00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:24,370
experienced was so amazing it changed

706
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:26,169
everybody's life because we actually get

707
00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:28,690
to see that which people only talk about

708
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,169
we got to experience you know things

709
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,720
people popping out of or Texas and stuff

710
00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:36,640
like the orbs we see them slipping in

711
00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:38,740
that a space it's right here it's just

712
00:28:42,659 --> 00:28:41,020
interesting I think Lazar it makes me

713
00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:42,669
think of lazarre's theory of folding the

714
00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:45,100
fabric of space I'm not sure it's Bob

715
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:48,340
Lazar no are the uh the mystic yeah no

716
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:51,730
no no no that was Aris oh no Bob Lazar

717
00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:54,130
right sorry yeah Bob does it work -

718
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:55,960
there again yeah well okay yes it does

719
00:28:59,549 --> 00:28:57,850
I'm so now get rid me you know the map

720
00:29:01,950 --> 00:28:59,559
and have you folks have a good spacing

721
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:01,960
oh yeah okay that's how the people know

722
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:03,730
all about bubbles or somebody woman's

723
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:07,120
okay related there are no better stories

724
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:08,860
you know it's different that's fair I'm

725
00:29:12,270 --> 00:29:10,330
looking I always pick certain things

726
00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:12,280
there's always truth so so the thing

727
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:14,140
that resonated to me was the fabric of

728
00:29:18,779 --> 00:29:16,030
space I was a navigator of this life and

729
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:18,789
I read pension for navigation and stuff

730
00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:21,850
and those kind of things so it just over

731
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:23,470
suddenly I can't add but you know give

732
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:25,210
me a grid with like you know some

733
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:26,890
dimensional things and it somehow makes

734
00:29:31,049 --> 00:29:27,340
sense

735
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:31,059
Bionic Li that I can - no - did I did

736
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:34,450
you tell me that this book at well or

737
00:29:39,090 --> 00:29:36,220
are two planets have some bearing up on

738
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:39,100
your experiences are becoming a person

739
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:42,010
in this no I think planning the

740
00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:43,750
planetary peace project proportion of

741
00:29:54,390 --> 00:29:50,400
okay because I'm gonna show the claim

742
00:29:56,850 --> 00:29:54,400
was influenced by fibers fibers was it

743
00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:56,860
who was this Bane from Italy

744
00:30:01,410 --> 00:29:58,510
I think Atlantis and the book was

745
00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:01,420
written about IO 1885 and we're talking

746
00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:02,950
about maybe bringing it back into it to

747
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:04,600
print and you know maybe include some

748
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:07,210
work and then - yeah yeah of course I

749
00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:07,840
know it

750
00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:09,790
I even sold that book and read it when I

751
00:30:14,130 --> 00:30:12,190
was like 14 years old and it's something

752
00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:14,140
that's people today should be aware of

753
00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:15,940
the public domain but nice to cover

754
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:18,040
anything else ed yeah well you know the

755
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:20,110
kids today that are in the 20s are now

756
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:22,630
watching Russ Meyer that was popular

757
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,410
well what Rosa Clara not think because

758
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:28,480
of the nature of it they just love it in

759
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:30,310
his comic book yeah you know and that's

760
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:32,170
how they relate to it I guess so the

761
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:35,110
people are 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s 70s and

762
00:30:38,850 --> 00:30:38,230
80s that's a lot of decades and it's a

763
00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:38,860
crossover

764
00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:41,190
well cults cult right it's just

765
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:43,480
everlasting so you made it here to

766
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:46,960
Sedona and you said jump I just well I

767
00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:50,650
had my 4x has been really good friend

768
00:30:55,950 --> 00:30:53,320
one together nine years Mikey's lovely

769
00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:55,960
being and he had open had a quadruple

770
00:31:00,810 --> 00:30:59,410
bypass surgery and it affected a lot of

771
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:00,820
things and he had to be in Los Angeles

772
00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:03,850
and and took him still recovering today

773
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:06,760
but you know we just i just sprinted him

774
00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:09,400
through the whole situation but after

775
00:31:15,630 --> 00:31:12,270
that and my mother passed away

776
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:15,640
and what happened after mom died well

777
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:18,640
the budget out here of got involved and

778
00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:20,770
older stuff well you know when I was in

779
00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:23,230
Colorado I cannot be pet resort for a

780
00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:26,500
year and had 58 animals that attended to

781
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:28,780
and after Michael had to go back to Los

782
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:32,020
Angeles I had 58 animals in the worst

783
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:33,520
winter in Colorado in a hundred years

784
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:34,810
I'm talking

785
00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:38,110
carrying water for the geese and horses

786
00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:40,900
and things like that and and so I

787
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,340
learned a lot about animals and then

788
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:44,640
found homes for all of them because they

789
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:47,220
before you can do my home for a cat

790
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:49,950
somehow though I found the perfect home

791
00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:52,049
for those animals then I just sold

792
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:53,460
everything I could and I said I'm gonna

793
00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:56,730
Sultana why Seville who told you about

794
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,020
Sodor I came to Sedona to film with was

795
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:04,559
called the elastic seemeth and that was

796
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:07,080
telling about the experiences we had in

797
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,690
bandolier like with bashar and all of us

798
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:12,000
ended up and having these four days in

799
00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:13,950
bandolier in new mexico having these

800
00:32:18,650 --> 00:32:16,350
paranormal experiences can win but we

801
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:18,660
still get the video yeah yeah and what's

802
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:23,490
the call the elastic Cena and elastic

803
00:32:26,659 --> 00:32:25,230
cement yeah and one kind of an award you

804
00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:26,669
know all the little films you did is

805
00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:28,590
somehow one day though Awards in those

806
00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:30,780
Film Festival other things and we just

807
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:31,950
put it together a spitting blood bowl

808
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,169
down basically and so then we went to

809
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:36,720
Sedona to talk about our experiences

810
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:38,850
because we had been to one who held it

811
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:40,440
depended on people who could not go to

812
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:42,570
New Mexico at that time and then those

813
00:32:50,530 --> 00:32:44,610
of us weren't there for Mexico and

814
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:50,540
having this vortex experience so then in

815
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:52,770
you know having this experience in

816
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:54,990
bandolier that again changed our lives

817
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:57,000
because this was like totally a profound

818
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:59,490
experiences I mean of the paranormal

819
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:01,260
kind as a matter of fact alone in the

820
00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:02,640
hotel and she got wind of what we're

821
00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:04,590
doing she says you're lucky that most

822
00:33:08,539 --> 00:33:06,840
almost which was close by Allah or these

823
00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,549
guys who didn't find out we were up to

824
00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:10,679
it I said why is it really have you

825
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:14,160
monitored you know and so I guess we

826
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:15,570
were lucky to slip through the cracks

827
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:18,390
and had a series of very definitely

828
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:20,490
dimensional experience so now if you

829
00:33:25,549 --> 00:33:22,530
came to Sedona hearing you at the moment

830
00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:25,559
you're running what do you call yourself

831
00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:27,870
exactly yeah during that you don't

832
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:30,179
really identify yourself with as being a

833
00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:31,980
psychic that you're kind of involved in

834
00:33:36,010 --> 00:33:33,960
that sort of work right well after many

835
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:36,020
lives that I've led this lifetime and

836
00:33:41,780 --> 00:33:39,179
after having a difficult experience of

837
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:41,790
you know having to you know just keep

838
00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:43,710
friendship apart you know partnership

839
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:45,299
with Michael and having him go back and

840
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:47,910
heal and me sitting on two acres land on

841
00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:50,370
vortex crystals popping up where Mike's

842
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,040
absorbs like the lore and I was there to

843
00:33:57,770 --> 00:33:55,679
close the vortex that's another story so

844
00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:57,780
after I just found perfect homes to the

845
00:34:02,419 --> 00:33:59,820
animals I just said I need to go there

846
00:34:04,340 --> 00:34:02,429
to just heal just to just be you know

847
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:04,350
and because I visited there but I

848
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:06,690
haven't never lived it and I was 60 so I

849
00:34:11,090 --> 00:34:09,270
started over again at 60 you know five

850
00:34:12,169 --> 00:34:11,100
years I've been here I'm renting Paul

851
00:34:14,780 --> 00:34:12,179
being Ellison

852
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:14,790
and I decided well what do I do you know

853
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:17,399
I had the chemically pet resort and I

854
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:20,090
said well how you know it was my

855
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:21,869
communication with animals and living

856
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:24,690
things which I had a talent for and so

857
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:27,090
and the love for and so I said well in

858
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:28,770
Sedona people of mystics and whatever

859
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:31,830
and I said it's probably just perfect so

860
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:33,780
I just came in rented this house sight

861
00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:37,200
unseen and join the Chamber of Commerce

862
00:34:41,899 --> 00:34:39,270
and all that because you know to save my

863
00:34:45,139 --> 00:34:41,909
business and because I'm counter goals

864
00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:45,149
not like setting up a shingle and doing

865
00:34:48,919 --> 00:34:46,859
something entrepreneurs you know

866
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:48,929
although what I do is pretty much

867
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:52,230
mom-and-pop shop so at my age I had a

868
00:34:56,359 --> 00:34:54,690
collective of experience love working

869
00:34:59,210 --> 00:34:56,369
with children and animals and I do

870
00:35:01,460 --> 00:34:59,220
counseling in a much different way it's

871
00:35:03,859 --> 00:35:01,470
sort of overqualified to stick it in one

872
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:03,869
particular type of well I know

873
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:06,890
now we spent a few days with you in

874
00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:10,770
Tucson at Allen Benzes world UFO hua

875
00:35:18,099 --> 00:35:14,340
group my friend Charles there and quite

876
00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:18,109
a few other interesting people including

877
00:35:23,330 --> 00:35:20,520
this gal that I understand you would

878
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:23,340
have married the army good that's the

879
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:25,020
first time I heard her abduction story

880
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:26,730
and I'm going to try to get an interview

881
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:28,920
with her that's more before I go back to

882
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:33,050
the East Coast so you're involved with

883
00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:35,880
breathing well what happened is that a

884
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:39,990
near-death experience where I was buried

885
00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:43,740
under debris and what felony woman

886
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:44,790
playing hide-and-go-seek

887
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:47,310
in woods and I didn't realize this this

888
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:50,070
kind of a small Shack you know that

889
00:35:54,509 --> 00:35:51,680
there was just a small Shack that had a

890
00:35:57,370 --> 00:35:54,519
you know a floor that went down

891
00:36:00,339 --> 00:35:57,380
Raceland was no bottom thing but it was

892
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:00,349
so old that the dust was so fine that

893
00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:04,910
you know I was going to smother so what

894
00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:07,369
if I ordinarily he just had a panic if I

895
00:36:11,710 --> 00:36:08,900
would have read then would have been all

896
00:36:13,630 --> 00:36:11,720
over I couldn't even yell but somehow it

897
00:36:15,759 --> 00:36:13,640
was face down was some kind of a pocket

898
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:15,769
and the only thing I could do

899
00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:19,609
I had to Bree on top is that I I guess

900
00:36:23,859 --> 00:36:21,289
like if you're drowning you hold your

901
00:36:25,690 --> 00:36:23,869
breath as long as you can and then some

902
00:36:28,989 --> 00:36:25,700
part of me started finding a way to

903
00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:28,999
breathe within and that was the clue I

904
00:36:33,729 --> 00:36:31,329
mean that was the first time when I

905
00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:33,739
became acutely aware of this particular

906
00:36:38,319 --> 00:36:35,420
breath because it was our I was staying

907
00:36:40,029 --> 00:36:38,329
alive so five and a half hours later I

908
00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:40,039
don't realize there well I realize when

909
00:36:43,210 --> 00:36:41,180
they're closer to where it was that they

910
00:36:46,029 --> 00:36:43,220
were looking at all this time because

911
00:36:49,569 --> 00:36:46,039
everyone was accounted for but and so

912
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:49,579
when they came close enough I was able

913
00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:51,950
to at least chance that if I to make a

914
00:36:57,299 --> 00:36:53,989
ruckus they could grab me before I could

915
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:57,309
smother but I would and I thought maybe

916
00:37:01,509 --> 00:36:59,839
out if I was lucky twenty minutes twenty

917
00:37:03,249 --> 00:37:01,519
five and they told me finding half miles

918
00:37:06,249 --> 00:37:03,259
went by I knew I was in a different

919
00:37:10,029 --> 00:37:06,259
space so in essence I went into like a

920
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:10,039
suspended animated state to where I was

921
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:11,930
surviving on whatever oxygen lived in my

922
00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:15,230
body I was able to slow down you know my

923
00:37:19,569 --> 00:37:17,420
heart rate and anything to be able to

924
00:37:22,809 --> 00:37:19,579
sustain myself on automatic I had no

925
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:22,819
clue that I was doing that and so that

926
00:37:28,989 --> 00:37:25,670
was the beginning of understanding

927
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:28,999
something about breath and then being

928
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:30,890
friends with Daryl Anka and telling the

929
00:37:35,410 --> 00:37:33,440
char and facilitating two of his

930
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:35,420
workshops the only thing we have

931
00:37:41,049 --> 00:37:38,450
they're telling shops and where he

932
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:41,059
taught not not the channel for sure

933
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:42,650
we're going to meet Darrell Doan State

934
00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:44,390
and that was never done that anyone

935
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:46,460
knows about and he would teach the class

936
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:49,520
as as the entity itself whatever suit

937
00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:50,089
yourself

938
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:53,270
so that was that was when the breathing

939
00:37:58,450 --> 00:37:55,730
that he does in order to access to

940
00:37:59,620 --> 00:37:58,460
national space and I knew its frequency

941
00:38:03,780 --> 00:37:59,630
because one time we're sitting in the

942
00:38:06,789 --> 00:38:03,790
class and is going lying lying lying

943
00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:06,799
within each other going okay and then

944
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:09,470
following I said very doing it and he

945
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:11,299
goes we're mining in consciousness we're

946
00:38:15,250 --> 00:38:13,700
so dense here that in order because when

947
00:38:18,309 --> 00:38:15,260
anytime we had had some kind of

948
00:38:20,260 --> 00:38:18,319
interaction the reality on his side was

949
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:20,270
that there was just as many people you

950
00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:22,609
know sort of observing how contact was

951
00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:24,740
made they don't do anything but just

952
00:38:30,819 --> 00:38:27,470
bring high-frequency messages and you

953
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:30,829
see how the earth knows who's behind no

954
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:32,089
but they have their mind and

955
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:34,190
consciousness I felt for you Sedona is

956
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:39,049
is known as a kind of a vortex Center

957
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:41,569
there's all sorts of well that lasts a

958
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:42,890
year I was down here in the interview

959
00:38:47,410 --> 00:38:45,040
Tandang go is that some incredible

960
00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:47,420
experiences and then scrapbooks with all

961
00:38:53,099 --> 00:38:51,140
kinds of photos and just phenomenal for

962
00:38:56,799 --> 00:38:53,109
not phenomenal phenomena

963
00:38:57,940 --> 00:38:56,809
I'll say that Ted types okay have you

964
00:39:00,220 --> 00:38:57,950
thought you've done similar work

965
00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:00,230
actually in the Sun Sun kind of just

966
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:02,030
glance through your scrapbook the other

967
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:04,609
day you have a vortex here what is that

968
00:39:09,549 --> 00:39:07,280
all about well that's how I got a touch

969
00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:09,559
of been long tree and you know about

970
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:12,680
vortex of energy and then I found out

971
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:16,010
you know each each like city or a place

972
00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:19,910
has you know has a heart center in it so

973
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:22,670
this particular area especially this

974
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:23,130
house

975
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:26,190
this area is the heart of Sedona and you

976
00:39:30,019 --> 00:39:27,690
know the heart chakra service peak of

977
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:30,029
Sedona so that's kind of an interesting

978
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:32,130
and then when Ben came to crew is the

979
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:34,380
scientist he came to prove that Sedona

980
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:36,569
is a pretty face because he gave that

981
00:39:42,349 --> 00:39:38,130
information with me I think I mentioned

982
00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:42,359
it earlier you know currently streaming

983
00:39:48,529 --> 00:39:46,619
residents information to NASA and MIT so

984
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:48,539
he came here to say this is my field

985
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:49,650
there's no way that that's possible

986
00:39:54,979 --> 00:39:51,690
those reports have to be false and

987
00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:54,989
you've got a fan packed or not and then

988
00:40:00,410 --> 00:39:58,440
I met up with him at the is energy domes

989
00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:00,420
out in village of Oak Creek album pass

990
00:40:06,469 --> 00:40:03,630
burger stain and we that was set up

991
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:06,479
specific in this one place to have

992
00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:08,220
certain frequency so we were all being

993
00:40:12,499 --> 00:40:10,380
measured on his neck monitor which

994
00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:12,509
measured our brainwaves and that's when

995
00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:15,150
he first noticed that that my left and

996
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,950
right brain were operating in a very

997
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:18,720
unusual pattern they were both instead

998
00:40:22,339 --> 00:40:20,249
of being accessed according to subject

999
00:40:25,099 --> 00:40:22,349
that however it fluctuates you know I

1000
00:40:27,289 --> 00:40:25,109
was present in both lobes or whatever

1001
00:40:28,789 --> 00:40:27,299
and then I said isn't it interesting he

1002
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,799
says our that's curious I'd like to

1003
00:40:33,019 --> 00:40:30,960
check that out more then he decided I

1004
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:33,029
asked him if he would check out the

1005
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,400
sound that we were exploring and it was

1006
00:40:40,789 --> 00:40:38,640
the Vedic sound of mmm that was taken

1007
00:40:43,339 --> 00:40:40,799
out of the sacred sounds because it

1008
00:40:44,839 --> 00:40:43,349
sounded too sensual so they disliked it

1009
00:40:48,109 --> 00:40:44,849
you know that's why we're so we were so

1010
00:40:50,809 --> 00:40:48,119
stuck on desert you know about you know

1011
00:40:53,390 --> 00:40:50,819
and and that's healthy thing to do so

1012
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:53,400
that's how I hoped up abandoned van was

1013
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:55,710
thinking you know he was so cute is just

1014
00:41:00,440 --> 00:40:57,450
to leave my friend it says something you

1015
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:00,450
know sure that looking to discover that

1016
00:41:04,219 --> 00:41:02,249
feels so comfortable when you do that

1017
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:04,229
but it's just like a lullaby you know

1018
00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:07,300
like like you know holding

1019
00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:09,820
someone comforting me and that I would

1020
00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:11,860
probably get reviewed as a very relaxed

1021
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:14,320
meditative state and what ended up

1022
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:16,750
happening is like he was looking at this

1023
00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:21,460
thing and watching the waves go from

1024
00:41:28,410 --> 00:41:27,100
high Delta I mean on the up for after as

1025
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:28,420
soon as they hit the hover you don't

1026
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:30,130
hold your breath and it was in free

1027
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:31,930
space which he's now relating to the god

1028
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:34,090
particle where he can you know life is

1029
00:41:49,539 --> 00:41:36,070
communal is some kind of ability to

1030
00:41:55,209 --> 00:41:52,659
and so the cycle goes when you connect

1031
00:41:58,749 --> 00:41:55,219
and it goes in you know a cyclical

1032
00:42:03,969 --> 00:41:58,759
pattern this you read as if I am

1033
00:42:07,089 --> 00:42:03,979
currently sleeping hours right now as on

1034
00:42:09,339 --> 00:42:07,099
Delta Delta as I am currently completely

1035
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:09,349
awake and conscious and having a

1036
00:42:13,509 --> 00:42:11,169
cognitive economy you know

1037
00:42:16,089 --> 00:42:13,519
conversational beingness at the same

1038
00:42:19,179 --> 00:42:16,099
time that it's registering on the theta

1039
00:42:22,419 --> 00:42:19,189
that I am in a relaxed meditative state

1040
00:42:25,179 --> 00:42:22,429
and at the heart just balances out

1041
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:25,189
because you're open and then at that

1042
00:42:31,329 --> 00:42:28,689
point that it completely matched his

1043
00:42:34,149 --> 00:42:31,339
drafts when he went out into a live

1044
00:42:37,059 --> 00:42:34,159
vortex that was Balinese you can see

1045
00:42:40,389 --> 00:42:37,069
that occur so that opened up a whole new

1046
00:42:42,609 --> 00:42:40,399
paradigm and why when I was so ill after

1047
00:42:44,919 --> 00:42:42,619
having you know stressful time with

1048
00:42:49,029 --> 00:42:44,929
whore-like and that whole episode and

1049
00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:49,039
having to operate a 58 animals on two

1050
00:42:53,889 --> 00:42:50,869
acres of land and the vortex closed the

1051
00:42:56,439 --> 00:42:53,899
vortex get the animals to safety grab my

1052
00:42:58,419 --> 00:42:56,449
baggage my stick in my belongings and

1053
00:43:01,989 --> 00:42:58,429
come to Sedona well wouldn't you say

1054
00:43:06,279 --> 00:43:01,999
vortex exactly what is a vortex and how

1055
00:43:09,609 --> 00:43:06,289
does it means the word identify itself

1056
00:43:11,949 --> 00:43:09,619
or how do we identify it now you have a

1057
00:43:15,489 --> 00:43:11,959
gateway here with objects going through

1058
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:15,499
a social photos purple there's well I

1059
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:17,569
don't exactly know how to explain it

1060
00:43:22,509 --> 00:43:19,609
scientifically but what we when we take

1061
00:43:24,669 --> 00:43:22,519
pictures of dimensionals coming in and

1062
00:43:27,669 --> 00:43:24,679
out like this interests us - Brundle

1063
00:43:29,649 --> 00:43:27,679
Nikita they're tossed out and and the

1064
00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:29,659
Indians also talked about it quite a bit

1065
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:32,119
they threw fictions of like lizards and

1066
00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:33,369
stuff like that is underground

1067
00:43:38,709 --> 00:43:37,459
terrestrials and then you have your like

1068
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,719
the orbs I have so many different

1069
00:43:43,419 --> 00:43:40,880
varieties of orbs that it's not one

1070
00:43:45,129 --> 00:43:43,429
species and some of them consider that

1071
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:45,139
the vessels that they you know like you

1072
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:46,260
you travel

1073
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:49,110
Manifest that these I think the most

1074
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,480
part of elementals and because I've

1075
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:53,280
taken pictures of like fairies and

1076
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:54,390
things like that

1077
00:44:00,920 --> 00:43:56,910
Tinkerbell exists guess what it's real

1078
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:00,930
think about with fists and so with

1079
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:02,910
wojtek's is the spout of energy like

1080
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:04,920
Sedona the whole things of or Tex but

1081
00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:06,510
you like going to like the cities the

1082
00:44:09,620 --> 00:44:08,040
city would you go to the hotspot and I

1083
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:09,630
clearly know someplace for this like a

1084
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:11,490
little energy and you'll usually see

1085
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:14,730
them manifest not only but usually in

1086
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:17,730
the trees will twist in a specific way

1087
00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:19,800
not the same kind of tree and it's you

1088
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,240
know it's not a straight tree it goes

1089
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:23,520
out but then you'll see this same way

1090
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,970
it's just really bent in a specific way

1091
00:44:31,070 --> 00:44:28,800
and that's what the vortex will manifest

1092
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:31,080
you know how the tree lives through

1093
00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:33,750
their energy so I'm not sure exactly how

1094
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:35,340
much time we have left how we're doing

1095
00:44:41,420 --> 00:44:39,000
on time well I don't know because that's

1096
00:44:45,340 --> 00:44:41,430
okay how we doing this it's almost

1097
00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:45,350
quarter till so how many movies yeah

1098
00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:50,100
fart noise sound yeah okay so well let's

1099
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:52,980
just kind of get to what you're doing

1100
00:44:59,060 --> 00:44:56,400
today then what is the cruckston book

1101
00:45:01,580 --> 00:44:59,070
why are we here in Sedona and what is

1102
00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:01,590
this all about now well I came here and

1103
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:03,540
created Ravens cosmic portal because I

1104
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:05,490
figured that covered everything I did

1105
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:07,980
and that I would see you know who was

1106
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:09,990
organically attracted to come as I

1107
00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:11,610
manifested what it is I was going to be

1108
00:45:16,220 --> 00:45:14,190
next when I grew up starting at sixty so

1109
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:16,230
then with the with the whole culmination

1110
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:17,970
being here was such a relief that I

1111
00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:19,650
think I finally allowed myself to break

1112
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:21,720
down to break down to break through

1113
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:23,490
because it wasn't like any other place I

1114
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:25,710
could really feel like home

1115
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:30,270
and so I did so and as a result I mean I

1116
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:33,090
was almost dying I had this one oriental

1117
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:35,400
lady at the center she was giving here

1118
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,140
some kind of a test and she crawled

1119
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,880
around my body like as if she was an

1120
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:41,280
aunt Molly because I felt like a sausage

1121
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:43,910
I was so encased that you couldn't even

1122
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:46,650
indent you know places under my ribs you

1123
00:45:49,810 --> 00:45:47,330
couldn't even

1124
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,820
in there and it was just energy so solid

1125
00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:51,440
from holding up the world and this is

1126
00:45:56,290 --> 00:45:53,630
what makes people sick musical breakdown

1127
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:56,300
anyway so I had to change my laid on

1128
00:46:01,690 --> 00:45:59,210
this floor this work after I turned it

1129
00:46:03,340 --> 00:46:01,700
into this room and this picture of our

1130
00:46:05,860 --> 00:46:03,350
looks great with the spiritual energy

1131
00:46:08,170 --> 00:46:05,870
system it was like I was looking at that

1132
00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:08,180
and I was starting to put I said this

1133
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:09,860
was a turning point for me it was like I

1134
00:46:12,130 --> 00:46:11,690
just was either going to go one way

1135
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:12,140
together

1136
00:46:17,170 --> 00:46:14,510
I wasn't like suicidal or depressed that

1137
00:46:20,860 --> 00:46:17,180
I knew of but I just physically and

1138
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,870
everything I just felt solid so I said

1139
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:22,640
okay dr. Shi Lin what do you mean by

1140
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,660
haha Epona

1141
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:25,280
what is exactly that mean who you

1142
00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:27,680
addressing them change myself because I

1143
00:46:32,110 --> 00:46:30,200
study energy and then I realized that

1144
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:32,120
you know the mind I knew from studying

1145
00:46:36,220 --> 00:46:34,250
some other work you know recovered about

1146
00:46:38,170 --> 00:46:36,230
the reactive mind versus the analytical

1147
00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:38,180
mind and how we have these pictures and

1148
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:40,100
that made sense he had a lot of good

1149
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:42,650
stuff and so putting together all these

1150
00:46:48,220 --> 00:46:46,490
different things in Georgio's Stan

1151
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:48,230
caller Bulgarian scientist living in

1152
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,150
Germany misters the central nervous

1153
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:52,400
system I started to Alex gray is just

1154
00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:55,130
started coming to me and that night

1155
00:47:00,040 --> 00:46:57,670
within 20 minutes laying on this floor

1156
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:00,050
applying the breath that I speak about

1157
00:47:04,210 --> 00:47:02,450
and real dose to those real quickly okay

1158
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:04,220
well first you got to do the three

1159
00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:20,210
and like it did Yuri do you have to warm

1160
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,380
it up the premise is that the breath

1161
00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:24,960
I'll show you that this breast plate is

1162
00:47:31,730 --> 00:47:27,750
covering heart and scientifically what

1163
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:31,740
Ben had demonstrated with this this mag

1164
00:47:35,420 --> 00:47:34,290
monitor was that you could tone you

1165
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:35,430
could bring it everything and it

1166
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,530
registers very nice but the only thing

1167
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:39,660
that we could discover in the sessions

1168
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:41,369
that we've had they would actually put

1169
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:43,650
somebody on the toilet was this breath I

1170
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:46,140
connected from the top like how a toy

1171
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:48,510
looks like and drive and goes into here

1172
00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:50,010
if he comes back like a figure 8 so I

1173
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:51,630
called like the infinity breath for like

1174
00:47:56,570 --> 00:47:54,300
what else to call II and then so you

1175
00:47:58,340 --> 00:47:56,580
would just just start at the bottom and

1176
00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:58,350
there's two reasons for this we have a

1177
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:00,300
circuit the circuit puts us in touch

1178
00:48:03,470 --> 00:48:01,650
with the brain and the mind when we

1179
00:48:05,810 --> 00:48:03,480
breathe just like I did this with this

1180
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:05,820
that kind of a thing you're freshening

1181
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:08,460
your brain now okay do you what is the

1182
00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:10,410
best for us now because game what I want

1183
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:11,880
to do before we close out of course is

1184
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:13,260
give you the opportunity to tell people

1185
00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:15,990
how they can contact you and your

1186
00:48:20,180 --> 00:48:18,270
websites and so forth so that let's do a

1187
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:20,190
couple of breasts now to show them okay

1188
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:22,380
but I just wanted to let them know also

1189
00:48:25,550 --> 00:48:23,970
that you know it's important to have the

1190
00:48:27,050 --> 00:48:25,560
connection it's not easy

1191
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:27,060
don't give up I'm going to have free

1192
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:28,710
instructional videos so that if you need

1193
00:48:41,099 --> 00:48:31,680
it and it's like you the most important

1194
00:48:44,740 --> 00:48:43,240
letting you hear me with my mouth open

1195
00:48:46,450 --> 00:48:44,750
cuz otherwise you can't hear me LS that

1196
00:48:47,890 --> 00:48:46,460
a microphone right there and you don't

1197
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:47,900
hold your breath when you hover at the

1198
00:49:01,080 --> 00:48:50,329
top it's sort of like a still point then

1199
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:03,760
you have to work at this like 20 minutes

1200
00:49:43,609 --> 00:49:17,030
then it's then you'll hear a rich mmm so

1201
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:46,039
and what happens is you get longer and

1202
00:49:50,989 --> 00:49:48,660
deeper more relaxed and it's not the

1203
00:49:51,739 --> 00:49:50,999
loudness or the forest but it's the

1204
00:49:54,140 --> 00:49:51,749
resonance

1205
00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:54,150
it's a 432 frequency of the heart and

1206
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:55,380
there's a resonance that makes you

1207
00:50:00,650 --> 00:49:59,249
Rumble like not here moon it's not from

1208
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:00,660
the throat and that's like it's just a

1209
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:03,210
training of making yourself use your

1210
00:50:07,249 --> 00:50:05,640
throat a certain way but what this does

1211
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:07,259
and they sound silly and all that but it

1212
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:10,710
has to be fun and you actually put the

1213
00:50:14,509 --> 00:50:12,329
breathing that comes before that last

1214
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:14,519
step which is the sound it actually

1215
00:50:20,209 --> 00:50:16,890
changes your all chemical properties if

1216
00:50:22,190 --> 00:50:20,219
you test your pH before Fitz trips you

1217
00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:22,200
do it and then afterwards it's a

1218
00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:23,880
different pH you start alkalizing your

1219
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:25,920
body when you're comfortable in the

1220
00:50:29,749 --> 00:50:27,690
breath and you learn to the body loop

1221
00:50:32,029 --> 00:50:29,759
bite because it's used to breathing in

1222
00:50:33,799 --> 00:50:32,039
the nose first when it goes down to the

1223
00:50:36,859 --> 00:50:33,809
bottom of the curve you'll have a

1224
00:50:38,959 --> 00:50:36,869
tendency to go right away or to Lee nose

1225
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:38,969
which is not what you want and or suck

1226
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:41,729
it up too high like that so these are

1227
00:50:45,229 --> 00:50:43,410
things that are can be a barrier to

1228
00:50:47,539 --> 00:50:45,239
deter you but if you stick with it you

1229
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:47,549
have endorphins that pour out of your

1230
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:49,890
heart with medicine well I can I can

1231
00:50:55,219 --> 00:50:52,380
attest the last few days haven't come

1232
00:50:57,319 --> 00:50:55,229
around here and having to work with you

1233
00:50:59,719 --> 00:50:57,329
when you're in Tucson that there's a lot

1234
00:51:01,279 --> 00:50:59,729
of great information that you have to

1235
00:51:03,319 --> 00:51:01,289
give to people but I want to give you

1236
00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:03,329
the opportunity to tell people how they

1237
00:51:17,749 --> 00:51:05,460
can contact you and find you on the web

1238
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:17,759
okay well you can go to www.nasa.gov is

1239
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:18,630
everything on your mind

1240
00:51:22,849 --> 00:51:20,609
this is this is revolutionary because it

1241
00:51:24,349 --> 00:51:22,859
not only changes your DNA I don't have

1242
00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:24,359
it but I just be anymore interviewed a

1243
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:26,190
breast surgery and I'm working on bone

1244
00:51:32,269 --> 00:51:28,380
repair this is documented the other one

1245
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:32,279
is harmonic - moon project and we're

1246
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:36,210
having videos music videos and things

1247
00:51:43,219 --> 00:51:39,390
that we're doing a planetary event where

1248
00:51:46,249 --> 00:51:43,229
each of us were able to just want to

1249
00:51:47,959 --> 00:51:46,259
feel that good just for fun never mind

1250
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:47,969
the science never mind what is to do

1251
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:51,690
that it's known that like the wave we're

1252
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:54,890
sending this out on a global broad

1253
00:52:00,310 --> 00:51:57,770
for fun that people can contribute their

1254
00:52:03,130 --> 00:52:00,320
4:32 there's a ship that they can sign

1255
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:03,140
on to so when when we stand up it

1256
00:52:06,610 --> 00:52:04,640
Network we're not going to take it

1257
00:52:08,890 --> 00:52:06,620
anymore kind of a thing it's sort of

1258
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,900
like a fun way to do that where we have

1259
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:10,160
the science and we have all the

1260
00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:12,170
edutainment that you need but if just

1261
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:14,360
the simplest thing is to feel good and

1262
00:52:21,730 --> 00:52:19,250
to go hmm and to breathe outside the

1263
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:21,740
mind into the larger grid it's an

1264
00:52:27,070 --> 00:52:23,990
upgrade it's like this is the hardware

1265
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:27,080
the Alex gray spiritual energy system

1266
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:28,760
you can look you can google back you

1267
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:32,030
know to see the image and if that is the

1268
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:35,090
software and the the up track and that

1269
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,090
move down is the USB cord and also to

1270
00:52:42,820 --> 00:52:40,400
they can find you on facebook oh yeah

1271
00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:42,830
even do it until well Raven I want to

1272
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:44,270
thank you it has been an extreme

1273
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:46,640
pleasure and I want you to write the

1274
00:52:51,730 --> 00:52:49,010
story of your life do you have to help

1275
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:51,740
me that's too long couldn't you confess

1276
00:52:56,410 --> 00:52:52,970
anything well maybe it'll be a

1277
00:53:00,640 --> 00:52:56,420
two-volume to by insect Anais Nin I am a

1278
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:00,650
continuing continuing anyway hope people

1279
00:53:06,430 --> 00:53:03,350
can come down and see you donate and

1280
00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:06,440
share this experience with you the

1281
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:09,080
close-up of a UFO that's over Cathedral

1282
00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:13,370
Rock in Sedona Arizona and where was

1283
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,870
this one taken Oak Creek Canyon Sedona

1284
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Arizona and when I got it hard that we

1285
00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:18,170
had nothing I thought I was doing Ansel

1286
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:19,880
Adams I get home put it on the computer

1287
00:53:23,620 --> 00:53:22,160
and if you go to the bottom frame I've

1288
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:23,630
blown it up and it's like delicious

1289
00:53:29,950 --> 00:53:27,890
ttles it's like a wheel of light there's

1290
00:53:32,890 --> 00:53:29,960
no car it's just letters

1291
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:32,900
I never seen that before this one was at

1292
00:53:38,590 --> 00:53:36,650
Bell Rock in Sedona Arizona and what

1293
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:38,600
does it show it's just it's a very

1294
00:53:41,710 --> 00:53:40,970
unusual orab that the traditional ones

1295
00:53:43,630 --> 00:53:41,720
are not like that

1296
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:43,640
and what's even more spectacular is the

1297
00:53:50,050 --> 00:53:45,890
one underneath it is a cathedral block

1298
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:50,060
and that's when acts actually behind the

1299
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:51,680
shrubbery this is like you know it

1300
00:53:57,070 --> 00:53:53,240
almost looks like a miniature UFO take

1301
00:53:59,170 --> 00:53:57,080
you up exactly so this is off my deck in

1302
00:54:01,360 --> 00:53:59,180
Sedona Arizona and I was just taking

1303
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:01,370
pictures of orbs which that isn't that

1304
00:54:05,650 --> 00:54:03,290
was a little light and when I blew it up

1305
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:05,660
on the computer on the bottom frame by

1306
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:08,210
Johanna Bell exists my goodness

1307
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:08,570
there

1308
00:54:15,340 --> 00:54:13,310
up hey this is at a night shot and so

1309
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:15,350
therefore there's no fractal indication

1310
00:54:19,090 --> 00:54:16,970
or source of light that would cause any

1311
00:54:21,220 --> 00:54:19,100
kind of a continuum of our shape I

1312
00:54:23,890 --> 00:54:21,230
noticed that all these particular kind

1313
00:54:29,860 --> 00:54:23,900
has cobalt on one edge and gold on the

1314
00:54:31,210 --> 00:54:29,870
other it's just amazing this one here it

1315
00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:31,220
looks I don't know if you can see it

1316
00:54:37,210 --> 00:54:34,430
very well it's it's this blue shape is

1317
00:54:39,580 --> 00:54:37,220
huge and that was my first UFO orb in

1318
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:39,590
Sedona and I have been ever since I got

1319
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:41,330
here are this are they I see them all

1320
00:54:43,150 --> 00:54:41,690
the time

1321
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:43,160
I can actually see those with my naked

1322
00:54:48,460 --> 00:54:45,650
eye and this one was I was teaching the

1323
00:54:50,890 --> 00:54:48,470
breath and I and those kind of orbs have

1324
00:54:52,090 --> 00:54:50,900
the cobalt and then the gold and that

1325
00:54:53,740 --> 00:54:52,100
was above me and the whole room was

1326
00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:53,750
filled with those particular types of

1327
00:54:58,660 --> 00:54:55,640
orbs killer I have is this one

1328
00:55:00,700 --> 00:54:58,670
spectacular I saw a series of this

1329
00:55:04,180 --> 00:55:00,710
coming out of the water and landing in

1330
00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:04,190
the bush and this was the most unusual

1331
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:07,790
as its heart shaped and ya know at least

1332
00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:09,770
intelligent creatures do you think well

1333
00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:12,230
I think that they probably are I mean

1334
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the mucousy ones I don't know if they're

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on the way in or out the ones that you

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see that are less defined but these

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things are spectacular eliminations of

1338
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tremendous pitches well this is what's

1339
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going on in Sedona so get your fare

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bottoms down here and meet that raven

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and have a wonderful time and enjoy the

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city and we'll see you back east and

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thanks again this is Tim Buckley for the

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conspiracy Journal unfair unbalanced and